Natl. Polls Show Down Trends for BHO - CHART

Results of three national polls for Clinton v. Obama were released today.

Before getting to the poll results, take a look at this report card from Survey USA of accuracy by the pollsters in this election year.  Notice how Gallup, Rasmussen, and CNN are ranked:  Gallup tied for first, Rasmussen at 22, and CNN near the bottom at 28.

Now for today's poll results.

Gallup tracking has Clinton 47, Obama 45.  This represents a 5-point drop for Obama since last week.  This same poll shows Clinton and McCain tied (46 each), while Obama loses to McCain by 2 (46:44).

Gallup says this:

Obama led Clinton in all Gallup Poll Daily tracking reports from March 9 through March 16, indicating he had a real, albeit slim, advantage in national Democratic preferences over this period. While not statistically significant, Clinton's two percentage point advantage in today's report is a notable shift, particularly in light of the political storm Obama has faced over the past few days concerning controversial political statements made by the former pastor of his Chicago church.

Rasmussen tracking shows a 9-point drop in Obama's favorability rating since Feb. 21.  Against Clinton, Obama has dropped 4 points from last Wednesday (O46:C44).

Rasmussen says this:

Looked at from a slightly longer perspective, Obama's overall favorable ratings peaked at 56% on February 21, shortly after he won the Wisconsin Primary. At that point, Clinton began raising questions about Obama as part of the campaign that ultimately enabled her to win the Texas and Ohio Primaries. Since then, Obama's net favorability ratings have fallen seventeen points (from plus 14 points on February 21 to minus 3 points today).

Rasmussen also surveyed opinions about Rev. Wright and his impact on Obama.  A myDD diary earlier today provided a concise analysis of those findings.

CNN has a new poll out today, with no  predecesor to use as a benchmark, that has O52:C45.  CNN doesn't provide much real analysis or any basis for trends so its disparity with the Gallup and Rasmussen polls is inexplicable. While Obama may be happy about these numbers, he may be unhappy about two other findings, especially in light of the Rev. Wright problem:

More people believe that superdelegates should decide based on their view of who would be the best candidate, rather than who has won more delegates or the popular vote (49:46).

And 63% believe that Florida and Michigan should hold new primaries.  If Obama is seen as blocking re-votes, this could certainly be a problem for him.

In sum, two longstanding national tracking polls are showing downward trends for Obama relative to Clinton, in terms of overall favorability, and against McCain. This is not good news for the Senator in the wake of the Wright videos, which seem to be multiplying by the hour.  We'll see whether Obama's "major speech on race" tomorrow will mitigate the damage or just fan the flames and help keep the story burning.

Final thought: These trends leave no doubt why Obama has launched a major offensive against Hillary Clinton.



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Gotta Love It (none / 0)

"More people believe that superdelegates should decide based on their view of who would be the best candidate, rather than who has won more delegates or the popular vote (49:46)."

This means that, of those in this poll, the vast majority believe that the supers should support Barack Obama.

46% percent believe that the winner of the most delegates and popular votes should win the supers -- and since that will definitely be Obama, he gets all of those 46%

49% belive that the supers should go with the stronger candidate.  If half of those folks believe Obama's stronger (24%), that means 70% of those polled believe the supers should go for Obama (46%+24%).

Heck, if only a third of the go-with-the-stronger-candidate crowd (16%) thought Obama was the stronger candidate, that would mean that 62% of those polled would believe the supers should go for Obama (46%+16%), and only 38% would favor Hillary.

Landslide territory no matter what.  Thanks for the great info!


by Bluebeard on Mon Mar 17, 2008 at 09:18:33 PM EST

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Obama supporters don't need to spin -- we prefer to add.  That's all I did -- simple arithmetic, with one assumption backed up by poll after poll showing Obama neck and neck with Hillary (or ahead) among Democrats on the question of who's the "stronger" candidate.  If you think that's "spin," then it's because you're revolving, not me.  (Everything is relative, you know....)

:-)

If you have some rational way of interpreting these results in which the majority thinks that Hillary should get the supers' support, I'd love to see it.  (Be sure to cite the poll showing that 97% or more Dems believe she'd be the stronger candidate in the general.)

Facts are stubborn things, aren't they?


by Bluebeard on Mon Mar 17, 2008 at 09:40:12 PM EST
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if come July he's trailing McCain by 20 and she's trailing him by 8, the percentage of Democrats who think the superdelegates should back the pledge delegate winner will change.

Most Democrats want to win, they don't care with who.


The American people; they were for the war before they were against it.
by nrafter530 on Mon Mar 17, 2008 at 09:46:16 PM EST
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Tracking polls do not do call-backs and thus skew toward older voters, thus Clinton voters.

Besides which, so what?  We don't know yet if there's a long term hit on Obama.  Let's wait and see and not jump up and down about a few days of polling.  


We care about politics because we know politics matters for people's lives and opportunities.
by politicsmatters on Mon Mar 17, 2008 at 09:24:02 PM EST

media bias (none / 0)

Great diary, Zebra01. What I find fascinating about this is that both CNN and MSNBC are ignoring this latest trend in national polling. Both networks are touting only the new CNN poll. The pro-Obama bias is so obvious. Remarkably only Fox News is showing these latest pro-HRC poll results. The massive bias in the media might actually push me towards Fox News, which is giving HRC the fairest coverage currently!


by bluestatedude on Mon Mar 17, 2008 at 09:32:30 PM EST

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Perhaps it's because they know the very well documented limitations of tracking polls.  


We care about politics because we know politics matters for people's lives and opportunities.
by politicsmatters on Mon Mar 17, 2008 at 11:37:59 PM EST
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I don't think it is that because they are also not reporting the USA Today/Gallup poll that also came out Monday in which HRC gained 5 points vs. Obama and has better numbers than Obama vs. McCain.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/el ection2008/2008-03-17-poll_N.htm

Clinton beats McCain by 51%-46%. Obama leads McCain by 49%-47%.


by bluestatedude on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 07:43:35 AM EST
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I see nothing wrong with Obama launching an Offensive, heck I think most people welcome it, after all we want a vetted canidate, and if Obama's efforts convince voters that Hillary can't be trusted that's a good thing in Novemeber.


by Socraticsilence on Mon Mar 17, 2008 at 09:36:35 PM EST

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Oh goody. His attempts thus far have been so wussy. I know he has to go on the attack because his campaign is flailing but it gives Hillary the chance to do what she does best. She can hit twice as hard and be deadly. A few commercials about his voting record in the IL senate should do the trick.


No longer a Democrat, now proudly an independent voter!
by Ga6thDem on Mon Mar 17, 2008 at 10:02:26 PM EST
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Dude,

Dont post this on dkos you could be banned.

david


by giusd on Mon Mar 17, 2008 at 09:36:41 PM EST

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And it's only March.

As you may remember, The Swiftboat smears against Kerry took effect in August.

Looks like the Obama smear switch has been flicked earlier than usual.


by kingsbridge77 on Mon Mar 17, 2008 at 09:44:23 PM EST

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Maybe just barely in time.


by arkansasdemocrat on Mon Mar 17, 2008 at 09:50:41 PM EST
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It was very well coordinated.  I hate to admit it, but let's review.

First Obama smear:  His middle name is Hussein, he's a Muslim Manchurian Candidate.
He doesn't weat the flag lapel.
He doesn't salute when pledging to the flag.
The viral Muslim e-mails force him to emphasize that he's a Christian.
His church is radical.  Farrakhan, Black Value System.
Michelle Obama says that "for the first time, I'm really proud of my country."  A video circulated around which didn't include the "really"(even saw that edited version on Hardball).
He wants to sit down and chat and make peace with Ahminedegad.
Farrakhan, Farrakhan, Farrakhan.
Wright Wright Wright.

Very sophisticated.  I think they're banking on maximum damage to the Democratic Party by entering it now, and perhaps ensuring a pro-longed fight for the nomination.


"Behold, I send you out as sheep amidst the wolves! Therefore, be as wise as a serpent, And as harmless as a dove."
by Setrak on Mon Mar 17, 2008 at 09:59:40 PM EST
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I'm sure they're not trying to help us but Obama problems have certainly done a lot of damage to the party. He's largely responsible for these himself. The fact that he has tons of ammunition for the GOP to shoot him with should give us all pause.


No longer a Democrat, now proudly an independent voter!
by Ga6thDem on Mon Mar 17, 2008 at 10:04:36 PM EST
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It has been giving some of us (none / 0)

pause for quite some time. It doesn't just give me pause now, in light of the Wright videos, it stops me dead in my tracks.


by georgiapeach on Mon Mar 17, 2008 at 11:25:47 PM EST
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JFK was tarred and feathered also, and he made a speech, and the rest is history.  Words, just words.  Yep, those pesky words.


by Spanky on Mon Mar 17, 2008 at 09:52:02 PM EST

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I understand that many pollsters question (or, at least, look a bit differently at) polls conducted entirely over the weekend.  Friday and Saturday are especially difficult days on which to poll.  If I'm not mistaken, the CNN/Opinion Research poll--which sampled less than 500 Democrats nationally--was conducted entirely during last Friday, Saturday, and Sunday.  Apart from addressing who polls better, etc., that situation may provide a better understanding of the CNN outcome here.


by christinep on Mon Mar 17, 2008 at 10:33:03 PM EST

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CNN struck me as odd....they usually have a pdf or something to back up their findings, but not this time.


by nikkid on Mon Mar 17, 2008 at 11:09:52 PM EST


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